Pabitra Mohan Swain
2007-07-09

Pabitra Mohan Swain
Dear Sir,

I salute u and Ms.Londhe of USa who has connected this site of yours to her website. I am surprised how the Hindus are lured, convinced, indused by so called Jehadi, christian missionaries. Really rediculous. Is thses missionaries has gouts to spread Christianity in the country like Pakistan, UAE< Saudi Arabia. There hand will be chopped, theire tongue will be cut off. There hand will be cut of by the so called fanatics. Because we are hindus, we are shy, calm, peacing loving people, thre aluring, inducing. Being a preossional I am telling u these christina missionaries deserve in the same coin, what the Muslim countries to protect their religion. Urs



Pabitra Mohan

raj
2007-07-04

raj
hi ajay



we are not against any religion, leave alone christinity. But onething i am a hardcore who oppose conversions in the name of money, education and other material things. This is nothing but taking innocent people for a ride.

Ajay everyone will be happy if these psedochristians who are enjoying the benefits of deserved people, why dont you stop and campaign to bring the truth.

I believe as long as these reservations are not reaching those, for whom these are meant and are being enjoyed by shamless creaters, these kind of mute problems would exist.

I request you all to highlight the abuse of reservations, which are being enjoyed by converts.



LET TRUTH PREVAIL

Ajay
2007-07-03

Ajay
BTW just a small note before i leave.People will critize and find fault no matter what you.There are people who will look for conspiracies in everything .In short human beings love to find out whats wrong then look at the brighter .My commments below are to make a point as a individual not political in any way.Everything in life is perception how you percieve things ,jsut cause you meet one bad hindu or christian or muslim or jew does not mean everyone is like that ,that is narrow minded ness or steteeotyping please as mature individual understand where your deep rooted beliefs and hatred comes from? IS it a christian who said soemthing that hurt you int he past? hatred comes from hurt where you hurt by some christian who ridiculed you? Is it fair now that you went through it to hurt others ,does that solve the intial hurt you faced ? Please reflect and think about it in your free time .Honestly it helps is there better things you can do with your drie or hurt ,if you are hurt by what soemone did to you the least you can do is nto do the same to others else you are in the same boat as the person who hurt you .You are reacting to him and lettignhim control your life.I know it is hard to admit in a group as a sincere thought can you do that when you are alone it helps trust me .

Again i have no political agenda or trying to convince you on anything .Just think and ponder before reacting it is as honest as i can get to you.I am not ducking and this is not a game ,just be careful how you put things forward and who you accuse you could be wrong ?

thanks

AJay

Ajay
2007-07-03

Ajay
Hi ,

Devout Hindu and Raj.

How Devout you are is decided by your just actions and spirituality not by supporting people who kill others like the Sangh parivar?They killed Mahatma Gandhi ,inoncent muslims in Gujarat.The train fire in godhra was a political connspiracy or could have been ignited from a internal fire like a firecracker or oil.It did not mean we had to slaughter inoncent law abiding poor muslims.I lost a good friend of mine from UK in the attack a muslim moderate .

Well i would not get low to the language you use about fetuses ,it reflects on your actions which you claim are of a devout hindu and exposes how you think.

Yes my dad a military colonel died in saichen glacier before i could see him.If it makes you feel better lets day you are the most intelligent person in the world we are all idiots.

Its sad that my grandfather a freedom fighter died for humans like you .Yes i would not mind my house being burnt down if it serves to build homes for 10 other people ,honestly i am not selfish.

I come from a mixed family my dad was a Hindu and my mom a catholic .My cousins have married jews ,muslims and some sikhs and they are all happy and do not think like you but are bey ond that.Yes i grew up in a catholic school where there were majority hindu students and no one forced us to theological classes we had moral science if we were not catholic like countless catholic schoools in Mumbai where even shiv sainiks send their kids too ,even RSS members these schools do not push religion up peoples throats.99% of christians in todays world are non violent and not pushy .My mom never forced her beliefs on my dad or vice versa.I come from a family where human life is respected ,I will protect the inoncent wherever they are and no i do not want to be a martyr ,but i f people like you would kill me for that i am not afraid to lay down my life to defend what i stand for the right to freedom and a free life.

I salute hindus in gujarat who protected their muslim neighbours at the risk of them being attacked ,they are truly couragous and righthous human beings worth respect.Guess you have had soem misconceptions which you need to reflect on when you are alone ,again on a personal note it would better you as an individual and spread love than hate .Missionaries form evangical groups do spread the message if they do i see no harm as long as soemone is not forced to do anything at gun point or blackmailed which i feel would be wrong .There are the others 97 % of the christians in india who contribute by educating India and building a good peaceloving and valued society.

Again if you try to comprehend what i am saying it is not the religion which is a debate here in our global village it is violence VS peace which end of it are you on?I was bought up to be a catholic my moms a catholic and you may hate her too.You may have had a bad experience from a selected few does not mean you stereotype christians ,today hindus are safe in the USA and UK and other christian countries like christians have always benn safe in India cause of the ideals of people who are against violence ,go to saudi arabia ,Iran or even taliban dominated afghanistan before the USA freed them you will know what life was for those people?i have seen the pain a mother goes through when she loses a husband or a son?do you know what it feels like ?Just cause you have been democracy and right to freedom in india does not mean you hurt inoncent minorities there for once reverse it think ,ponder and rationalize and think how you would have felt if it was done to you?

Again the problem here is not religion.Religion is a personal think helped to make people better individuals and humans beings for those who follow it ,a source of strength to millions to face the trials in life,an inspiration for those depressed and out of hope that life is good.I am an atheist but respect those ways of using religion.Its sad today people are used by politial parties and others to spread their hatred for power agains and vote banks ,parties and political outfits that do not care how much human life is lost in the bargain or how many houses they destroyed you think these parties will coem to your rescuse ask hindus after godhra how many lip praising politicians actually helped them build their life back agian be it RSS,VHP ..whoever.

You need to watch "RANG de BASATHI" it shows an inoncent man was used for his right to fight for the right by a communal organisation and was forced to hate others and when he realised those same people he confronted on the truth kicked him ,a movie but the truth on what happens.I have nothing aginst you but i do not like you hateful attitude amd fabrication about christians and would stand the same ground if you fabricated hindus or muslims.We already face fundamentlist who kill in the name of Islam last we need is more of such organisations.Again there is no religion in the world that tells you to kill ,religion is used for personal spiritual needs and needs to stay there.I do not care if the world is christin ,muslim or hindu as long as people who folow their religions wouldbe better individuals and use religion to better their life.

I have read the bible totally and know what it says their are good things to learn in it if you read with an open mind and are not judgemental and use it for the right purpose help you be a better human being.

Me being an atheist can say that.Again my personal belief the world is billions of years old and we know only 0.001 % of it there is a lot of things we have no evidence on ,there could be civilisations all around the world which are older which we have not hear of cause of the ice ages the world went through and meltdowns after that .Again for now this is one homw we all share our global village tis up to you whether you believe in destroying it .There are millions of people like child prostitutes ,old people,Hiv patients ,children molested by common people ,persecution of the poor by the rich ,people with mental illness ,people who are depressed .I have made time to visit such people no matter how much i am busy for to make a difference sinc eyou accuse me of things thought i would mention.What have you done to make the world a better place to live ?Again more a reflection for you than a question.

Again is short and very unpredictable ,I do not have to teach ot prove anything to you life will teach you the lessons you need to learn in its due time .Trust me it willand i wish to meet you on a forum like this in 40 years if i am alive :) and have a talk on your views .You donot hold your life ,your destiny holds you.Again will end this topic here ,I appreciate if you show soem understanding i have been as honest as i can .

Again for one of me that dies there will eb humdreds that will be born who will fight for a just and peaceful world and then there will always be the violent world.

No i am not scared to die ,no iam not scared to fight for the inoncent and yes if my life will have others live a better life so be it.

Finally only one thing wins the TRUTH and i do not care what soemone does to suppress it .It will win our lives will prove it.

SATHYME JAYETHE

Again i do not need your apologizes i get those comments from muslims fundamentalist too who abuse me and threaten me .NOw i will leave you in peace i ahve to devout time to my 2 young kids.BTW anger and violence and speaking ill will not harm me it will change your life though remember what i said your life will teach you your lessons in the course of years to come

AJAY

DevoutHindu
2007-07-02

DevoutHindu
Ajay, I might have misread your remarks. I thought there was a personal reference in your remarks.However i think i was mistaken. I apologize for my remarks on the fetus part. I thought you were making very personal remarks and i would return the favor but then i was wrong as you had not made that remark. So again i apologize.

Devout Hindu
2007-07-01

Devout Hindu
Ajay, shows your intellect and grasp of the situation when you associate me with Chwodhary or who ever. Some intellect and you call yourself educated. Now go back to your Sherlock Holmes work and try again.You gusy are so brain washed that one day you wouold brun down your own house.Bloddy pseudo seculars dont even know what is right and what is falling prey to deception and treachery.It is morons like you which allow missionary trash to spread and breed like parasites. BTW i am in no way an endorser for ISCON.I could not care less what it does.It does not fall under the hindu mainfold. Missionary encroachment would be stopped.No one is endorsing caste system you moron. Understand why people are here and what they are resisting. You mucks can never understand the context in which things are being stated. Your main aim is to jump and that is all you do. Jump up and down like a dement.

Devout hindu
2007-07-01

Devout hindu
Ajay Verma, was it your mom's fetus that was stolen and that is why it gave rise to lowly filth like you? So you see when you fling filth you cannot always hope you would be able to duck in time. So talk rational and talk sense. Now coming back to you representing young india.Are you really on dope? Your writing lol and all that juvenile stuff just makes me think you are 18 rather than 28.I am 30 by the way and i represent what you call 'yound india" too. Now stop rants about your myopic views and write sensibly or else you know your a%% can be swiped pretty easily.No one hides behind devout hindu you moron juvenile indian.It is declaration of the truth not otherwise.

AJAY
2007-06-29

AJAY
Be rational .why do you buy products from Marketing firms they took are preaching and selling products to you.So basically that’s like selling a conversion product.BTW ISCON a hindu organization has missionaries do you stand against it too? You should since you against all missionaries ? Where’s the Integrity or is it selective?



Converting I won’t be bothered as long as people put spiritualism to good use.Killing people in the name religion is a big NO and people still get killed and attacked today in India in the name of Hinduism ?you are contradicting yourself and base integrity Mr Chowdary and aka devout hindu.

Taliban and Fundamentalist hindus are the same both Kill in the name of religion ,both divide society (Hindus do it on caste lines (upper castes)) and both are against women .A finding from India’s census found women in North India have 35 % literacy even muslims in India have better women literacy.Yeah another thing both are controlling.

Where does Indian constitution claim India is a Hindu State .India is a democracy and people will follow whatever they want.

Westerners did youread the latest Even Richard gere a Buddhist was not left they burned his effigies lol The Indian Actress he kissed did not mind and they morons went on the streets lol talk about controlling what a shame for Indians.This old hatter Chowdary and his devout Hindu Avataar will not leave this innocent man who does so much of good work for the millions of AIDS victims in India .So Mr Chowdary and Devout Hindu where’s ethics screw the religion part lol.

These guys even protested against Hindu women marrying muslim men lol,When will you guysget out of peoples personal choices .Chowdary and Devout are scared that your daughters or cousins would marry muslim men .do you feel inferior to muslim men .please be rational Stupid morons.Open your mind think are you scared all that you believe in hinduism could be a lie ? or is it the power you upper castes are losing in India?

Answer yourself do me a favor.Is your mother being converted whats your problem.One hand you claim you are against missionaries while there are hindu organizations like ISCON that convert westerners too lol and then you kill people like the Taliban do you need more evidence and facts and court cases ?

Let the facts talk

SATHYME JAYETHE

If you have the guts stop hiding face the facts with yourself alone and think.Be a man not a coward and accept the facts and do what is just humanly in this global village don't you have anyhting better to do? You old rotten hag ?How old ar eyou chowdary aka Devout Hindu?

I would doubt anyone who calls himself devout hindu should be nazi hindu or hate hindu.Your life and acttions should decide how devout a hindu you are not talk.learn something fromt eh swaminarayn sect hindus who forgave the muslim militants you bombed their temple thats a great human and good person.

BTW India and Pakistan were Divided cause Jinnah a smart lawyer and muslim was power hungry and the moment he knew he would not be a prime minister ,he used the divide and rule policy of the britishers to divide India to create Pakistan to get power.Smart man I would say .Are you dumb don’t you guys rationalize? Open your mind ?try being a good muslim ,Christian ,jew,Buddhist or whatever follow the teachings and then chosse your comments.I did read about all in depth did you?Stop making a soft target of missionaries when there are big flaws in your house.It takes 2 hands to clap.stop using excuses to be violent cause someones opinions do not agree with yours or you are too old and live in denial.do yourself a favor for your own good think and have compassion use some understanding.

And remember India is a democracy that’s the freedom we fought for.If you knew that you would talk like you did today.Who are you brain washed by ? get a life?

Ajay(Always Victorio
2007-06-29

Ajay(Always Victorio
HI,

Mr Chowdary aka devout Hindu.Get your facts right.

1. I am an Atheist my choice I care a hoot on your opinions on that one.

2. I Represent Young India (I am 28 years old)

3. I am not political and yes I am just .I do not hide behind IDs like Devout Hindu.Lol Practise what you preach.Every person has a right to practice preach and express their opinions in a Non Violent way in India .Its a Democracy not a Fascist ,Nazi Hindu state which dumb fairy tale mythology complexed Individuals like you want to make it.

4. Missionaries were killed in India by people like you who claim to self styled Devote Hindus .I wonder are youll devout murderers lol.Grow Up

5. Caste system still strives in India please be practical there are dalits and lower caste killed as we speak by so called upper caste devout hindus like you.Links prove facts please go along with westerners and confirm facts before you talk.

http://www.pucl.org/Topics/Human-rights/2002/up-record.htm

http://www.rediff.com/news/2002/oct/21amber.htm

http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0306/feature1/index.html?fs=www7.nationalgeographic.com

Howmany more links do you need why don’t you andyour westerners friends come and check facts in India.

6. Buddhism was a protest against hindu caste system and atrocities and Violence ,I wonder why millions of dalits and lower caste still convert to Buddhism.Want more data.These are not forced conversions they choose.Buddhists were persecuted in India and their religion not allowed to grow by hindus.Buddhism is a way of life not rascist ,Naziest like hindus.

http://www.ambedkar.org/

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/386924.cms

http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,660224715,00.html

7. India is an african land originally owned by Dravidians whom the Aryans upper caste persecuted and ruled over and termed as dalits or scheduled caste in the long run.Whether you live in denial or no this is a scientific fact millions and millions of years ago before your story telling author of Hinduism could even write his only Story lol which you a fool claiming to be openminded will never understand lets see who is a lowly moron let the people judge.Please Educate yourselves if you have time from your story telling Nazi beliefs of Hinduism which is just a few Thousands of years old 0.0000001 % of world history .Want to go into the past go to the very end do not suit it to meet yoru needs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Plate

http://www.answers.com/topic/indian-plate

http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dynamic/himalaya.html

I wonder where in Africa people like you exist lol.Indias originally land of the Dravidians Scheduled caste and tribes.See Scientific facts and be rational

8. BJP which supported VHP RSS and Nazi Hindu Organisations was defeated in Indias 2004 elections Facts for You I Wonder why?

Cause the people of India rejected your Nazi Religious beliefs.Please read VHP and RSS were founded on Nazi Lines Pandit Jawahar lal Nehru own Remarks the first Prime Minister of India

Jawaharlal Nehru attacked the RSS when he compared their efforts to fascism. In December 1947, following allegations of RSS's involvement in the Gandhi assassination, he wrote to the provincial governors saying "We have a great deal of evidence to show that the RSS is an organization which is in the nature of a private army and which is definitely proceeding on the strictest Nazi lines, even following the technique of organization....Quotation from Nehru provided in: Nussbaum, p. 167."

Jews Be careful of these Nazi’s.They even use the Swastika symbol hitler used for the Holocast.

They Hindu Terrorist and others even killed a Inoncent leader known Around the world Mahatma Gandhi .Westerners please read facts about man who killed him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathuram_Godse



8. In 1956, B. R. Ambedkar, a freedom fighter during the Indian struggle for independence from the British, and hundreds of thousands of his followers converted to Buddhism in protest against the caste system.

9. BTW Christianity like Buddhism preaches humbleness love and respect.There is no bible or Buddhist holy book that says you should discriminate.Christianity is a non discriminative way of life.

10. 35 % on Indians are either scheduled castes,tribes or dalits ,14.5 % are muslims and upper caste only 9% or less and further reducing they discriminative ,power hungary upper caste are losing their control and leadership slowly and surely in the new world and as people are getting exposed and rationalized.

Mr chowdary and devout hindu whether you live in denial of the facts or no they exist .The truth is all over today and I know its your EGO and need to be right given you guys are old and dying and your kids are questioning your belief system is preventing you from opening your minds.The World will move ahead and you guys will die as is sticking to your stupid story telling valmiki and nazi ideologies ,Your close mindedness will be your death in the new world..

11. Killings by so called devout hindus well again you can live in denial or accept the facts. Forget the religion part it makes me questions the human ethics of these guys.Read my friends and be enlightened I speak the truth and do not hide behind fake ids like these cowards.From when is killing justified these guys are not better than Taliban or the Nazis.Mr Chowdary Or Devout Hindu is this your religion and beliefs

http://genocide.com/showthread.php?p=440#post440.



A Pregnant muslims womans stomach was cut open and fetus taken on a spear from when is this kind of Hinduism right .Can you answer? What if someone did that to your family or kids ? how would you feel ? These people did not kill anyone or murder anyone form when is killing innocents justified .

Please answer your conscience if you have no guts to admit to this group.You can go on with lies but the truth and facts will always haunt you.Life is Life .And by the way why are you so concerned on who gets converted are you being forced too ? Well you now the answer politics and control.

SATHYEME JAYETHE

TRUth ALWAYS WINS

DevoutHindu
2007-06-27

DevoutHindu
Ajay Verma has proved what a lowly creature he is. His acerbic slanted view of everything goes well beyond in proving his self loathing attitude which transcends into each and every sphere of his life. What a pity that this guy is from North? Mr Ajay, it is sad that you are only seeding a deep mistrust towards the people who you call "dalits'.The fact is that the world has moved on from that plateau but you just cannot find a way off there. Again what a pity.